Now you say offence cannot be given without it ALSO being taken.

You make a good point that you must keep I touch with the rules of the English language, because otherwise everyone would have their own way of speaking.

And for more historical anecdotes, check out these 20 "American" Traditions We Totally Stole from Other Cultures. For someone learning to speak English,this is not the case because they, of course have not been speaking it all their life. Not one example.

It’s a scummy tactic, but no less scummy than being deliberately offensive. They make middle managers. But fact is, her mother speaks english only poorly. To many people, calling someone "spastic" is just as offensive as calling someone the r-word. All that is required is a displeasing action.

Chinese is full of Chengyu (成语), 4 character idioms, that are frequently used to express extra meaning within sentences. It is good to know the source of some of them, though the article did get the whole Eskimo/Inuit thing wrong. Sure it’s great for the people that actually are Inuit, but for the rest it’s like calling all Europeans “French” or all Native Americans “Apache”. It actually derives from the greeting of a Native American man talking to early settlers.

Straight A's don't make millionaires. Reread Amy Tan's writing on the term "broken English."

They key words here are “give” and “take.”. The term solely correlates to the fact that she cannot speak full english.

Jamaican Patois is also spoken in Costa Rica and French Creole is spoken in Caribbean countries such as Trinidad and Tobago, and Guyana in South America.

1.1 Be displeasing or cause problems to

Maybe the term "broken" is a little harsh, but overall I really don't see anything wring with it.

The White House just advised new safety measures here. All Rights Reserved. Words change meanings, it’s what the English language does. It’s still an attack, still (in a suitable context) intended as an attack, and so still an “offense given” rather than only taken. A person who becomes incapable of thinking when they are offended is a retard nazi poofter, unworthy of my respect or time.

The term actually comes from WWI slang, and refers to soldiers who were so seriously injured you could fit them in a basket. Something along similar lines is “bastard,” which due to its high context sensitivity I’ve had to explain very carefully to some non-Aussies. Take note of these words that make you sound old.

I’m not offended.

The cause is the making of deliberately offensive statements, i.e. What’s to refute? As far as I am concerned, broken language is just a term that draw people's attention to the fact that there are groups of people who speak not standard english and they live hard lives for sometimes others do not take them seriously enough.

Under the strictest definition of the term, broken English consists of English vocabulary grafted onto the syntax of a non-English speaker's native language, including word order, other aspects of sentence structure, and the presence or absence of articles in the speaker's native language.

We know what she means. ria | \his-ˈter-ē-ə, -ˈtir-\ It’s akin to the old saw about whether a tree falling in a forest making a sound if nobody hears: If a person does something displeasing, but there is nobody actually displeased, is it still displeasing?” Depends entirely on your definition of displeasing.

To believe that when being offensive, it is entirely the fault of the listener whether offense is taken, is to entirely ignore the possibility of saying the same things without being offensive. Your supposed refutations to date contain no reasoned argument, but simple refutations (and occasional implied insults) without argument.

Even just a very quick glance at Wikipedia reveals that the claim about ‘hip hip hooray’ having racist origins doesn’t stack up.

Personally, I acknowledge that it’s possible for me to say hurtful things and generally try not to do so. Do you call your female coworkers broads, bitches or some of the even less pleasant terms out there? Include axioms, definitions, and constructive logic. Broken English is a pejorative term for the limited register of English used by a speaker for whom English is a second language. 1.

Because if you are telling the truth, their own research will convince them you’re right. In France and other Francophone countries, patois has been used to describe non-standard French and regional languages such as Picard, Occitan, and Franco-Provençal, since 1643, and Catalan after 1700, when the king Louis XIV banned its use. 1: Cite where I claim that. Is it possible to give a thing without it being taken? But the term derives from the tribe Canibales, or the Caribs, in the West Indies.

Non-native English speakers, or anyone new to a language, will make these kinds of errors in syntax. Learn some words and phrases you should never say if you want to sound smart. You haven’t bothered to counter that.). The word comes from the already offensive term “gypsy,” which is often used to inappropriately, and inaccurately, describe the Romani people. “Catch a tiger by the toe” seems harmless… until you find out that “tiger” is a fairly recent replacement for the original term.

I’ve heard “Broken Telephone” is the new name for it. Clearly we’re not looking at definition 2 here.

It actually derives from the greeting of a Native American man talking to early settlers. Instead, incorporate some of these trendy words you probably don’t understand the true meaning of into your day to day instead.

Of course you’re not. Use of such terms may indicate “honest communication,” but so does a bullet to the head.

I don't think there is any bias in this statement, I think that broken English is a word that has been used for a long time and it hasn't changed because of the fact that it is simply the most accurate word in this context. In this case, I think it’s far more likely that “long time no see” is simply a native adoption of a literal translation of a contemporary Chinese greeting; rather than mocking. But all the changes due to this influence are still correct, for example the word " chequear" which is an anglizism of the english word " to check". Actually, it looks more like Cypriot Mycean. My proof that offence must be taken, not given, is that there exists no example of offence existing when it wasn’t taken.

It was usually the area with the worst seats in the house, where people of color were forced to sit. Here english can't be legitimate. Nothing compares to such dehumanizing anguish, so don’t equate your suffering to that of slaves. Typically, the non-English speaker also strips English phrases of linguistic markings that are d… If everybody's linguistic mistakes would be considered as legitimate, whatwould be left of good literature?

Also, that means that the plural should be ‘green-boyz’.

I like the vase :) we could connect that to roberts idea, that tans mother has a " building" language. Sure, we've all heard "peanut gallery" used to describe harsh critics—usually ones with little knowledge of a situation—but the phrase originally refers to a section in Vaudeville-era theaters. Personally I think if you piss against a wall and there’s nobody around to watch you, you’re still being displeasing and you’ve still done something offensive.

(In fact, a BBC study showed that U.K. citizens find the word "spastic" to be the second most offensive term for disabled people.)

You’re not offended.

When we rode up to him he said: 'Good morning. The first words of your original response were “Offence cannot be given.” Not “Offence cannot be given without it also being taken.” (Which implies, by the way, that it CAN be given.). I suspect that you probably feel more or less the same way; you are demonstrably not constantly, deliberately offensive.

– retard.

The word comes from the already offensive term “gypsy,” which is often used to inappropriately, and inaccurately, describe the Romani people.

While we currently use it to describe a generally accepted principle, it’s said to derive from laws in England and America dating back to the 1600s. You will have given offence.

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I imagine it would only actually look like Chinese Script if you were high on narcotics. "Building" English still implies improvement, or the need for improvement. The term originates as a word meaning “stupid” in ancient Greek. Uppity . These ideas still have influence today, but when it comes to gender, the unscientific advice from centuries ago doesn’t apply. If somebody goes out of their way to say things in an offensive manner, my number one assumption is that they’ve run out of any actual productive arguments and I should henceforth ignore them. Your reasoning is circular. Your argument seems to be based on definition 1: that a person can choose not to be upset, annoyed or resentful. Constructing an argument out of lies is not valid argumentation, it’s pathetic. In America, the term became associated with poor areas with non-white residents.